Can KDE Save a Dying Windows Platform?
Once upon a time there was a software engineer. He wrote code, windows code, embedded firmware. He was happy. Then one day a new project is put before him, a project unlike any other he had encountered. It was going to require all new hardware, and the features, wow. Something like this is going to require a full blown Operating System not the usual rinky dink assembly program.
Research leads to the inevitable conclusion, Linux. Further Research leads to a graphical toolkit called Qt (pronounced “Cute”.) A request was made and granted for a new workstation to create a new Linux development environment, after all the windows development machine was far too mission critical to muck about with dual booting and virtual machines.
This engineer had some Linux experience on the desktop, having a PC or two running it on and off for the last couple of years. He picked his favorite distribution and after a bit more research had a fully working development machine up and running a chair swivel away from his usual trusty machine. The choices made for this workstation would have a lasting effect on this engineer. KDE for the desktop, with Kdevelop as the IDE won out over Gnome and Eclipse. It stood to reason that if he was developing with Qt, a desktop made atop the Qt libraries was appropriate. Even with the incomplete KDE cross compiling documentation it was fun to work on.
Fast forward, the product is designed, operating system compiled, drivers tweaked, application software is written, units are built, tested and released to production. During this time a funny thing happened, Windows disappeared from the engineer's home PCs completely. The research requirements were so much that many an evening he could be found at his desk until the wee hours of the morning going over documentation, compiling newer kernels, and generally pushing Linux as hard as he could.
When the morning came he would go back to his office and he noticed he swiveled his chair less and less towards the Windows PC. So much so in fact, he decided he should do something about it, He designated it the email machine. That would ensure he used it more frequently. While using it he missed the simplicity and stability (especially the Stability) of his Linux box. No amount of cygwin or virtual machine tweaking was satisfactory. Every open source application that was cross compatible was deployed, Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, and the rest, but still it was not enough. Eventually he gave in to dual booting to enable him to use his favorite tools. But the sad truth is, an embedded engineer needs Windows. There are just too many specialized tools for programming devices, analyzing signals, and device drivers that are Windows only and no amount of Wine-ing will do.
His only hope was that he knew Qt was cross compatible with Windows Linux and Mac, and there was talk that someday, KDE was to be ported to Windows. So he waited.
Well, KDE4 was announced and there was much joy. Betas were released and there was much bitching. KDE4.0.0 was released and there again was much joy (and still a little bitching). More importantly an actual honest to goodness Windows port is released.
Here follows that engineer's report.
I could hardly wait. Download the KDE for Windows Installer. (Link is to the Stable version)
(For this review I went with the bleeding edge unstable version 0.8.6 beta4 marked 1/28/08)
Note the disclaimer.
KDE on Windows is mostly in an alpha state, so not suitable for day to day use yet.
My first thought was “1.6 Megabytes, wow that is some port.” Followed by "oh, I see, it's a cygwin-like installer." Hmm, what to install? When in doubt grab it all. Pick a Mirror, I have no preference, I picked a KDE mirror in the US. You have the choice of User or Developer package installation, naturally I chose developer. This gives you all kinds of goodies like Mingw, Qt, Qdesigner, and other development tools.
Ok downloading packages, this may take a while..........
Hours later, Installing Packages this too may take a while, but don't leave because a few packages have installers themselves requiring you to click next, next, next, finish.
All right finished in a blazing 4 hours.
Follow the post install instructions from the KDE guys. Again note the disclaimer:
Disclaimer These are early days for KDE4 on Windows, some programs work better than others and some fail to run altogether.
Never mind all that, lets see what works.
What Works:
Quite a lot actually. See below for Screenshots of included apps that work. Almost all the apps shipped "work". Two are all but useless due to bugs. The rest seem to function perfectly as long as you don't need to refer to Help. Fortunately most apps have an online help while this bug gets ironed out.
What doesn't work?
Sound, at least on my setup there was no sound, any application that tried to make a peep instead produced this error message. Most Apps let you disable sound.
Blinken - Simon unfortunately requires Sound to be playable.
MimeTypes for Dolphin and Konqueror.
(I may have missed something and am investigating)
Dolphin is the new Filemanager for KDE and it looks very nice, however It could not run any executables, view any pictures or play and music. It browsed my directories just fine after complaining about not being able to open ~ directory. After setting up my home directory it stopped complaining. But not being able to do anything but browse was disapointing.

Konqueror – KDE's Swiss Army Knife, Web Browser, File Manager, FTP Client, Embedded File Viewer, Etc ... Unfortunately on my Windows box it is reduced to a Web Browser (without Flash support) and a Menu Explorer (without being able to launch anything.)
What is missing?
Besides the things mentioned above. Koffice the KDE Office Suite, Amarok Media Player, Kontact PIM Suite including Kmail, Kopete Instant Messenger. KDEVELOP!!!!!!! These are still being worked on for KDE4, so no real surprise their not ready for Windows yet.
Help Functions on all programs are broken.
So what's the answer?
Can KDE save the dying windows platform?
Not Quite Yet, but they are making a damn fine start of it.
I know I will be pitching in to help them out with new KDE Windows apps and I won't be alone. Qt is already a powerful Windows Toolkit but the KDE family of Applications are a welcome addition. Amarok is coming along nicely, and as soon as KMail, and KDevelop gets up and running, I will have to re-evaluate.
Applications:
Kwrite – Notepad Replacement.

Kate – KDE Advanced Text Editor, the brains behind my favorite IDE Kdevelop. Syntax Highlighting and Code Folding is working perfectly.

Kfind – KDE File Search Tool – I didn't expect this to work but what do you know it does.
Konqueror Web Browser, Nice to see the Konq on XP too bad about the flash and it doesn't seem to support Gmail.

Kworld Clock – It's a Clock for the whole world.
Education:
KAlgebra - Math Education Tool
Kalzium – Periodic Table educational Software

Kbruch – Learn Fractions and Decimal Conversions
Kgeography – World Geography and Capitals
KPercentage - Percentage Study Tool
Kstars – Internet Connected Observtory one click to retrieve gorgeous pics of distant galaxies as well as Wikipedia and Nasa Pages.
Ktuberling – Mr Potato Head for KDE shown here in Space mode
Kturtle – LOGO Educational Programming Environment.
KTouch - KDE Touch Typing Tutor

Parley – Language Phrase Teacher, No files loaded.
Marble – The Earth on your desktop.
KwordQuiz – Flashcard and Q & A Study Tool
Kmplot - Matematical Plotting Tool
Games:
Katomic – Connect Molecules in this Puzzle Game.
Kanagram - Anagram game
Bovo – Tic Tac Toe on Steroids
Kbattleship - KDE sunk my battleship
Kblackbox – I hate this Game and I refuse to describe it.
Kbounce – KDE's Version of Jeezball

KHangman - Hangman for KDE
Klines – Make Lines of 5 or more but don't block your path
KmahJong – KDE Mahjong, The Art Department has been working overtime.
Kmines - KDE MineSweeper
Knetwalk – Get those computers on the Net as fast as you can. This game is like Crack, You have been warned.
Kolf – Minature Golf, This is the fugliest of the KDE games.
Konquest - Galactic Conquest
Kpatience – Several Different Solitaire Card Games
Kreversi – Reversi or Othello finally with fullscreen scaling.
Kshinen – Cross between Tetris and Mahjong
Ksudoku – Sudoku except on your PC
KspaceDuel – Another game I was never very fond of.
Ksquares – You remember that game where you draw a grid of dots and take turns connecting them, this is it without all that drawing and paper.
Kriki – K Yatzee again without the paper.
Kfourlines – Konnect Four was taken I guess.
Kjumping cube – Dice Game, I don't get it.
SameGame - Remove Groups of the same color.
Kgoldrunner - Oh Yeah Lode Runner.
MrCopilot
UPDATE: Some people have taken issue with the Title of this post. Here is my response.

















































Comments
At least on Linux, Konqueror supports Gmail just fine; but Gmail doesn't believe that. Spoof your user agent to Firefox or Safari and things should work perfectly.
After setting up my home directory it stopped complaining. — how did you set this up?
I only occassionally now have to use Windows for some TI DSP stuff. Wine will sadly not cope whith .NET based monstrosity that is Code Composer. It's enough variety that we as a company only need one Windows based laptop that we can share around for the rare occasions it's needed.
@Anonymous - I agree I write almost all my code on the linux box, I only need the windows machine for certain ICSP and Diagnostic and Analysis programs.
http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~johnbent/C4/C4.html
I can't see Kompare in any of the reviews.
Is it included?
At least on Linux, Konqueror supports Gmail just fine; but Gmail doesn't believe that.
... because it's not true. Konqueror constantly needs upgrades and patches to track GMail. Since the last GMail features were introducted, my Konqui 3.5.7 on Debian broke again, no matter which UA you spoof :(
Thanks for the big plug on KGoldrunner (I wrote it). Your point about KJumpingCube is taken (I maintain it). It's a nice game. I'll have to find some way to make it clearer ... :-) Ian W. KDE Games Team
Thanks KDE!!
I'm so exited to see KDE on Windows. This is really great news.
At work I have no choice but to use Windows (Company policy, they won't let me dual boot/wipe the hardrive) and on my game computer I'm stuck with Windows Vista *grr* because of Direct X 10.
Now I can finally have an uniform look between all my machines and don't have to give up on KDE within gaming sessions.
Best of all. My Linux apps will finally run on Windows.
I just need Amarok 2.0 finished an working on Windows/KDE-Windows and I'll be in heaven.
This should also open up the KDE world to more software developers (hopefully game developers as well)
Hopefully people will still screen the open source apps from 3rd party developers for malicious code. (I don't trust most Windows applications that are distributed for free. They haven't learned the Linux way of not being evil yet.)
What is it with you Linux gurus that you can't even keep a windows machine that only has email on it stable? What the hell kind of client are you using?
Sorry, but I've used and administered Windows since it's inception. My machine was the most stable machine in the building, but even that didn't hold a candle to the Linux machine.
You might have learned to believe it is acceptable for Visual Studio to lock up if you have a browser open, be forced to wipe your machine every 6 months, bog your machine down with protection from security holes that shouldn't be there in the first place, etc, etc... It takes no time at all to become accustomed to an environment that doesn't suffer these problems and is actually quite pleasant to "work" on instead of "work on".
I'm not quite a Linux guru yet, but I grok it quite well thank you. Building the kernel from scratch has that affect on you.
Meanwhile, my Windows knowledge can be considered expert. That doesn't mean I can fix it's broken OS. Legally I'm not allowed to. Just stick my finger in the dyke. It get better over time ME and Vista excluded, give em 10 more years and they just might catch up to the Box on my desk right now.
As for a client (I assume you mean email) I used web mail in Firefox. It was safe and lightweight on resources comparatively.
Still, Windows is not dying, no matter how much you want it to, but you are free to stay in your dreams.
You have to realize..with windows you have 1 or 2 ways of checking your e-mail, browsing the web, etc. With linux, you have at least 10 choices, and then, you can choose how you want your choice to look. That's what's so good about choice--thunderbird crashes on you, but it won't close? Simple solution--xkill. In windows, doing the same time can require you to restart, especially if you have a pentium 2 running @ 400 mhz.
BTW, you forgot KLinkStatus from kdewebdev ;)
@Mojo - I left out a few apps KBugbuster, KTeaTime, Kuiviewer and a host of development tools that came with the full install. Klinkstatus however did not, at least with 0.8.6 installer.
Unfortunately, Windows is still superior to Linux in the following areas:
* The battery lasts longer.
* The Notebook is quieter.
* No problems with beamers etc.
* Dual head works as expected.
* Hot docking/undocking works (on Linux it works... SOMETIMES).
* Faster suspend to RAM and unsuspend.
* Better hardware control (for ex. on Windows I can turn on/off my cdrom on demand to save power)
So KDE on Windows would be cool! Windows is the better "kernel" for my notebook. Perhaps it is possible to use the same config files on Windows and Linux (like Thunderbird for example). Then, I could use Windows on the road (to have the better hardware support) and Linux at home (docked in desktop mode).
They are more than happy to help out, I have yet to try the newest version with amarok. but here is
their page.
Post any questions in the comments section.
Had to respond to this...
I currently am using vista...
I am dying to switch to ubuntu and have tried to do so but my preference of graphical applications are not yet supported by linux or wine.
My problem with this post is this:
My config:
Vista Ultimate x86
gateway gt5260
4gb of ram
nvidia 9600gt
intel core 2 duo
and 2tb of storage
250 gb of which is separately partitioned and dedicated to virtual memory.
I have visual effects set to adjust for best performance.
ie7 crashes constantly
windows explorer (the basis of the gui and most native app) has to restart approximately 4 times a day.
I don't use any hacked 3rd party apps, or any that manipulate windows system files, in fact the only apps I have installed are Office '07(mistake), firefox, adobe cs3 web premium, and adobe after affects.
If my Windows Experience Index is 5.6
Why is it than that my younger brother mark can start his machine at the same time as i start mine and when i'm just seeing the login screen he's already checked his email, myspace, and is halfway done watching some crazy prank on you tube.
I would switch to apple if I hadn't already spent close to $6k on hardware and software assuming windows was going to be stable this time, I guess it's my fault really I should have listened to that smart ass who once said, "(ass)-(you)-(me)-(ng) Makes an ass out of you and me"
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-Michael Hurley
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